Blog #1
Hubris and the Priesthood
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| Greek Hero |
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| Mormon Hero |
Greek epics
describe heroes as individuals who are brilliant, clever, unbelievably strong
or possess incredible endurance. Their gifts and talents lead to amazing
adventures and great fame. Even now hundreds of years later heroes like
Odysseus, Achilles and Jason are recognized by adults and children alike. As a
result of this extreme fame many of these heroes share another common
characteristic, extreme pride (or hubris if you were going to ask a Greek on
the street). However, I think aspiring Greek heroes should consider their “pride
level” carefully before accepting it as a necessary heroic trait or denying it
completely. Pride in the ancient world is, in moderation, a good thing. A hero
should be proud of his strength, of his intrigue, and of his victories. The heroes’
downfall is when this desired level of pride develops into excessive amounts (hubris)
until finally it offends the gods and leads to the eventual demise of our Hero.
This delicate balance between good pride and bad pride can be seen early on in the
Iliad. An argument erupts between
Agamemnon and Achilles over their deserved spoils of war. Agamemnon is upset at
the prospect of giving up Chriseis (his spoil of war) and demands Achilles gives
him his war prize, the woman Briseis.1 (Homer, 4-9)
The Good Pride- these
two Heroes have been working hard in the war and as a reward they are given their
respective woman (I will hold my thoughts on human prizes for a different post).
And what are spoils of war but physical representations of honor. Pride to a
certain extend is built into the Greek culture, it is expected, encouraged and rewarded.
In fact I would argue pride is necessary
in Greek culture, if pride and honor were not so highly revered none of our
famous heroes would have been motivated to risk life and limb to battle monsters
and take on quests.
The Bad Pride- Agamemnon
and Achilles both feel their pride would be irreparably hurt if either one gave
into the others wishes resulting in an argument that shapes the rest of the Iliad.1 The Gods are involved
in their “game of chicken “and forced to take sides waiting to see which of the
two heroes will give into the others will first. The consequences of their unconquerable
hubris are large and bloody. A large portion of Agamemnon’s soldiers are killed
and as is often the case this excessive pride angers the gods leading to the heroes’
eventual downfall. As is the case of Achilles who chooses honor in war and a
short life as opposed to a long life, but no great honors.1 (Homer, 178)
The example of hubris
above is only one of the its many forms studies in the Greek epics. However, hubris
is not always a result of two individuals contending against the other, but can
also be displayed by a single person looking to gain glory in the sight of
others. Odysseus in the Odyssey does
a good job at maintaining that tricky balance between good and bad pride, but
in a moment of heated escape Odysseus allow his hubris to overcome him. Odysseus
unsatisfied that only his men know about his clever escape and triumph over the
cyclops shouts back to the fuming cyclops that he “Odysseus the marauder… son
of Laerter” had blinded him.3 (Homer, 312) Because of this lapse in self-control
Odysseus suffers for years at the hands of the Sea God, Poseidon.
Thus Pride in ancient
Greece is described well by the old saying “to much of a good thing is a bad
thing”. Greek heroes are motivated and rewarded with pride and honor, however
just like eating too much ice cream will give you a stomach ache developing too
much pride will get you cursed by the gods.
Mormon epics
describe heroes as individuals who are charitable, loving, brave, or incredibly
faithful. Their gifts and talents lead to amazing conference talk stories and
great fame (amongst Mormons). Many of the Mormon heroes share another common
characteristic, humility. Pride in oneself in the LDS church is never a good
thing. When one is prideful they are accrediting themselves with accomplishments
instead of giving credit the true Master. In his 2010 conference talk “Pride
and the Priesthood” Elder Uchtdorf said “Pride is a sin of comparison…the great
sin of self-elevation”.2 Thus, according to this definition all our
Greek heroes who were striving to obtain glory and elevation were committing
the sin of pride. So then what is the motivating force behind our Mormon heroes?
Why do our prophets and leaders continue to fight monsters and take on
seemingly impossible quests? I believe, in large portion, our Mormon heroes are
motivated by gratitude for a loving God who offers them so much, even the
opportunity to return to Him after falling short. I also think they are
motivated to work hard in life’s battels by God like love. From his same 2010 talk
President Uchtdorf declared “So how do we conquer this sin of pride that is so
prevalent and so damaging?... It is almost impossible to be lifted up in pride
when our hearts are filled with charity… When we see the world around us
through the lens of the pure love of Christ, we begin to understand humility.”2
So instead of seeking glory of men Mormon heroes seek to glorify their God and
become more like Him.
However, I would
like to clarify that pride is not always a bad thing in the LDS faith, as
stated above pride in oneself is considered a sin, but pride can take on different
forms. Pride in ones work or family is not a bad thing as President Uchtdorf confirms.2
This idea of a “loving kind of pride” was not lost on the ancient Greeks. Herodotus
wrote of a fictional exchange between Solon and Croesus, the later of the two
inquired of Solon whom he believed to be the “happiest of mortals”. Solon responded
that Tellus was the happiest of men, not because he had gained the most glory
or riches, but in large part because he had many beautiful and good children
whom he was able to watch grow and succeed.3(Finley, 42) This description
of a Proud father was the man deemed happiest of mortals.
If
I had to choose to either be a Greek hero or a Mormon hero I would without hesitation choose to be the latter. I agree with Solon that true and
lasting happiness is not bought with glory. I believe happiness is found by becoming more like Heavenly
Father. Pride in oneself, even in controlled levels, does not bring joy that
will last throughout this life and into the next. As Achilles describes in the Odyssey when Odysseus is speaking to his
ghost. “Don’t try to sell me on death, Odysseus. I’d rather be a hired hand
back up on earth, slaving away for some poor dirt farmer, than lord it over all
these withered dead.”1 (Homer, 346-347) It seems Achilles learned
too late that pride and glory were no solace in the next life. Thus, filling
your life with love and gratitude is a much worthier endeavor and truly makes
for the greatest type of heroes.
Citations
1- Homer, Stanley
Lombardo, and Sheila Murnaghan. The Essential Homer: Selections from
the Iliad and the Odyssey, 2000. Print.
2- Dieter F. Uchtdorf, “Pride
and the Priesthood”, Ensign, October 2010
3- Finley, M. I. The
Greek Historians: The Essence of Herodotus, Thucydides, Xenophon, Polybius.
Penguin Books, 1982



I really liked your comparisons of Greek vs LDS heroes, and also how you described how both cultures have ideas of ‘good pride’ and ‘bad pride’. I think it’s interesting how both have pride that they think of as acceptable or good, and also pride that they think of as taking things too far. However, what makes that pride good or bad is different in the two cultures. Nice post!
ReplyDeleteEVIE! Well done. I really loved the way you compared and contrasted the characteristics of Greek vs. LDS heroes, just like Claire said. It was interesting the way you talked about how the Greeks saw pride as something necessary to make a living, and that hubris become a problem often because the people at the top of society became used to being in control and having all the power. Everyone treated them as though they were above everyone else, and they "inhaled it", as President Faust would observe. And I appreciated that you didn't just analyze pride and hubris, but you came to a conclusion about what we should do to avoid the venomous effects of pride by filling our lives with love and gratitude. Truly, I am most happy when I am trying to be like Heavenly Father and helping others, not putting myself above them all.
ReplyDeleteI love the images depicting a Greek hero and true Mormon hero of today! Your personality comes across your writing which makes it fun to read.
ReplyDeleteAs an aspiring Greek hero, I appreciate the advice and I will regulate my pride levels from now on. You have a great argument as to why it was necessary for Greek culture to have pride. I can’t really see myself putting my life at stake if it wasn’t for the cultural pressure telling me that honor in fame and stories is everything.
I like your use of similes that relate so well to any audience. You should bring ice cream to class to drive your point further!
Very insightful! Book of Mormon heroes also went through many wars and they stripped themselves of pride. I wonder how the Greeks would react to their way of life and ideas of war. They would probably be shocked with the idea of “seek to glorify their God and become more like Him”.
Thank you for sharing your point of view at the end! Be that Mormon hero!